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	<title>Comments on: What to expect from KoroIRC 0.4</title>
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		<title>By: ITF</title>
		<link>http://blog.koroirc.com/2009/01/what-to-expect-from-koroirc-0-4/comment-page-1/#comment-2437</link>
		<dc:creator>ITF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the old connection better, and I think there&#039;s an option for that in the tools section or somewhere.

I hope the new version you won&#039;t try to &quot;pretty&quot; up the UI with your &quot;slew of user interface changes&quot;.

I really like the UI the way it is now, simple as possible but very useful in features. If you do decide to pretty it up, I hope the default stays simple and users who want easy or pretty UIs have the option to theme (with icons and all that).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the old connection better, and I think there&#8217;s an option for that in the tools section or somewhere.</p>
<p>I hope the new version you won&#8217;t try to &#8220;pretty&#8221; up the UI with your &#8220;slew of user interface changes&#8221;.</p>
<p>I really like the UI the way it is now, simple as possible but very useful in features. If you do decide to pretty it up, I hope the default stays simple and users who want easy or pretty UIs have the option to theme (with icons and all that).</p>
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		<title>By: sato</title>
		<link>http://blog.koroirc.com/2009/01/what-to-expect-from-koroirc-0-4/comment-page-1/#comment-472</link>
		<dc:creator>sato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet the confusion users had with the connection dialog (which led to the creation of the connection wizard) is actually the concept of &quot;identities,&quot; when most people expect to supply/select server info. I had the same confusion, and didn&#039;t understand how to connect to different servers &quot;with the same identity&quot; until I asked you. Your concept makes sense now and works fine, but it is novel to most people. Maybe the term &quot;Server Identity&quot; is more clear. I for one thought identity meant &quot;user identity.&quot;

As for the DCC info, I did realize I could open up the details, but they open in separate windows which clutter my taskbar - could you have them originate and minimize to the left-pane inside KoroIRC like mIRC does? But I&#039;d still just prefer more details in the transfers window, and have them sortable. hehe ;p

So, I&#039;ve been playing with it more, and have a few more comments/suggestions! (Hope you don&#039;t mind..)

1. When the wizard or connection dialog are not set to show on startup, KoroIRC should automatically connect with the last used identity when  started.

2. KoroIRC doesn&#039;t yet support the normal irc select-text to copy to clipboard.

3. When a server is disconnected, on reconnect, client should rejoin open channels. (I also noticed when my internet connection fails, KoroIRC doesn&#039;t notice and I have to manually &quot;disconnect&quot; to be able to connect again.)

4. When following irc links from a web browser, open new channels with the same server connection (if they are the same server)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet the confusion users had with the connection dialog (which led to the creation of the connection wizard) is actually the concept of &#8220;identities,&#8221; when most people expect to supply/select server info. I had the same confusion, and didn&#8217;t understand how to connect to different servers &#8220;with the same identity&#8221; until I asked you. Your concept makes sense now and works fine, but it is novel to most people. Maybe the term &#8220;Server Identity&#8221; is more clear. I for one thought identity meant &#8220;user identity.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for the DCC info, I did realize I could open up the details, but they open in separate windows which clutter my taskbar &#8211; could you have them originate and minimize to the left-pane inside KoroIRC like mIRC does? But I&#8217;d still just prefer more details in the transfers window, and have them sortable. hehe ;p</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;ve been playing with it more, and have a few more comments/suggestions! (Hope you don&#8217;t mind..)</p>
<p>1. When the wizard or connection dialog are not set to show on startup, KoroIRC should automatically connect with the last used identity when  started.</p>
<p>2. KoroIRC doesn&#8217;t yet support the normal irc select-text to copy to clipboard.</p>
<p>3. When a server is disconnected, on reconnect, client should rejoin open channels. (I also noticed when my internet connection fails, KoroIRC doesn&#8217;t notice and I have to manually &#8220;disconnect&#8221; to be able to connect again.)</p>
<p>4. When following irc links from a web browser, open new channels with the same server connection (if they are the same server)</p>
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		<title>By: Koro</title>
		<link>http://blog.koroirc.com/2009/01/what-to-expect-from-koroirc-0-4/comment-page-1/#comment-470</link>
		<dc:creator>Koro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I prefer the old-style connection dialog much more too. Only 2 clicks to load an identity.

The problem is that it didn&#039;t fly with users at all. They&#039;d just kinda stare at it and use it all wrong, and then complained KoroIRC was hard to use. Everytime I&#039;d have somebody install it, I&#039;d have to take time to explain to them how to connect to a server and why they should save it to an Identity (they assumed - rightly - that the dialog would retain its values like in mIRC). So I created the wizard to guide them in doing that and got much positive response, suddenly KoroIRC wasn&#039;t so hard to use, somebody could use it correctly on first try without explanation! But, I kept the old-style dialog for me and others who don&#039;t like to have to click through dozens of pages just to connect to a server.

As for DCC information, you can double-click a transfer in the pane to pop up a window with all the information you could ever dream of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I prefer the old-style connection dialog much more too. Only 2 clicks to load an identity.</p>
<p>The problem is that it didn&#8217;t fly with users at all. They&#8217;d just kinda stare at it and use it all wrong, and then complained KoroIRC was hard to use. Everytime I&#8217;d have somebody install it, I&#8217;d have to take time to explain to them how to connect to a server and why they should save it to an Identity (they assumed &#8211; rightly &#8211; that the dialog would retain its values like in mIRC). So I created the wizard to guide them in doing that and got much positive response, suddenly KoroIRC wasn&#8217;t so hard to use, somebody could use it correctly on first try without explanation! But, I kept the old-style dialog for me and others who don&#8217;t like to have to click through dozens of pages just to connect to a server.</p>
<p>As for DCC information, you can double-click a transfer in the pane to pop up a window with all the information you could ever dream of.</p>
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		<title>By: sato</title>
		<link>http://blog.koroirc.com/2009/01/what-to-expect-from-koroirc-0-4/comment-page-1/#comment-469</link>
		<dc:creator>sato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The old-style connection is definitely more to my liking - though I&#039;d prefer being able to load my different servers or &quot;identities&quot; from a drop-down in the main menu without having to load up a wizard or browse for a file. Or at least if it could load the last used profile and connect on start-up, I&#039;d be happier.

Also, I successfully created the KoroIRC.ini file, and saw that it was populated after the next run and I was able to &quot;port&quot; the entire directory to a different machine. Yay! 

Oh! The items I miss the most from the DCC transfer window are &quot;time remaining&quot; and &quot;% complete&quot; columns. ;D

Thanks for your work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old-style connection is definitely more to my liking &#8211; though I&#8217;d prefer being able to load my different servers or &#8220;identities&#8221; from a drop-down in the main menu without having to load up a wizard or browse for a file. Or at least if it could load the last used profile and connect on start-up, I&#8217;d be happier.</p>
<p>Also, I successfully created the KoroIRC.ini file, and saw that it was populated after the next run and I was able to &#8220;port&#8221; the entire directory to a different machine. Yay! </p>
<p>Oh! The items I miss the most from the DCC transfer window are &#8220;time remaining&#8221; and &#8220;% complete&#8221; columns. ;D</p>
<p>Thanks for your work!</p>
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		<title>By: Koro</title>
		<link>http://blog.koroirc.com/2009/01/what-to-expect-from-koroirc-0-4/comment-page-1/#comment-392</link>
		<dc:creator>Koro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.koroirc.com/?p=64#comment-392</guid>
		<description>You have to create an empty INI file in the directory. It should be named KoroIRC.ini. As for &quot;user directories&quot;, well paths will still be saved as absolute (generated on first run) in the INI file, I guess I&#039;ll have to fix that.

To join channels, use the /join command.

The point of identities is making ONE per server you wish to connect to. An identity is the details of one connection, saved to a file. The point of putting multiple servers in the same identity is only to allow to connect to the next one if the current server is unavailable.

You can enable a more classic &quot;Connect to Server&quot; dialog by checking &quot;Use old-style connection dialog&quot; in Settings-&gt;Behavior. But it won&#039;t remember what you put in here, that&#039;s the job of identities.

Thanks for the DCC resume. I tried really well to stick to the protocol. As for sorting, well, I never imagined somebody would want to sort them, but I could look into it I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to create an empty INI file in the directory. It should be named KoroIRC.ini. As for &#8220;user directories&#8221;, well paths will still be saved as absolute (generated on first run) in the INI file, I guess I&#8217;ll have to fix that.</p>
<p>To join channels, use the /join command.</p>
<p>The point of identities is making ONE per server you wish to connect to. An identity is the details of one connection, saved to a file. The point of putting multiple servers in the same identity is only to allow to connect to the next one if the current server is unavailable.</p>
<p>You can enable a more classic &#8220;Connect to Server&#8221; dialog by checking &#8220;Use old-style connection dialog&#8221; in Settings->Behavior. But it won&#8217;t remember what you put in here, that&#8217;s the job of identities.</p>
<p>Thanks for the DCC resume. I tried really well to stick to the protocol. As for sorting, well, I never imagined somebody would want to sort them, but I could look into it I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: sato</title>
		<link>http://blog.koroirc.com/2009/01/what-to-expect-from-koroirc-0-4/comment-page-1/#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator>sato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you make it portable? There is no INI file in the directory.. If I need to create one first, what do I name it? I don&#039;t want it saving identity files in user directories either, it should all be localized when portable. I would actually prefer a .zip option with the portable INI all ready to go, instead of just the .exe option. 

Next.. how do you join channels (ones that you don&#039;t have saved)? There is no &quot;Join Channel&quot; dialog box (a &quot;last joined&quot; list of channels would also be nice).

There is no &quot;Connect to Server&quot; dialog either. The loading of identities every time is confusing! How do I connect to a server that wasn&#039;t the first I added? &quot;Connect&quot; always connects to the same server, even when I am already connected to it. I want to connect to 2 different (or more) servers at once.

Finally, bravo on the DCC resume! I&#039;ve been going through quite a few clients that can&#039;t manage it right. However, the transfers window is not configurable (add/remove/rearrange detail columns), and they do not sort by column-click.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you make it portable? There is no INI file in the directory.. If I need to create one first, what do I name it? I don&#8217;t want it saving identity files in user directories either, it should all be localized when portable. I would actually prefer a .zip option with the portable INI all ready to go, instead of just the .exe option. </p>
<p>Next.. how do you join channels (ones that you don&#8217;t have saved)? There is no &#8220;Join Channel&#8221; dialog box (a &#8220;last joined&#8221; list of channels would also be nice).</p>
<p>There is no &#8220;Connect to Server&#8221; dialog either. The loading of identities every time is confusing! How do I connect to a server that wasn&#8217;t the first I added? &#8220;Connect&#8221; always connects to the same server, even when I am already connected to it. I want to connect to 2 different (or more) servers at once.</p>
<p>Finally, bravo on the DCC resume! I&#8217;ve been going through quite a few clients that can&#8217;t manage it right. However, the transfers window is not configurable (add/remove/rearrange detail columns), and they do not sort by column-click.</p>
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		<title>By: Rue</title>
		<link>http://blog.koroirc.com/2009/01/what-to-expect-from-koroirc-0-4/comment-page-1/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Rue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.koroirc.com/?p=64#comment-181</guid>
		<description>Well, I just downloaded you IRC client program. Tell you the truth Im just starting to use these programs...but Im gonna see, what its like. Although, I do like that you are trying to keep the program portable...but it seems like you will have a huge task at hand. I hope you succeed. 

Thanks, for the program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I just downloaded you IRC client program. Tell you the truth Im just starting to use these programs&#8230;but Im gonna see, what its like. Although, I do like that you are trying to keep the program portable&#8230;but it seems like you will have a huge task at hand. I hope you succeed. </p>
<p>Thanks, for the program.</p>
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